Editing User talk:Nwt000 (section)

==Character list==
A fair argument you've made, but Jimmy should come before Token as he's basically become the sixth boy, due to been featured more prominently with the boys in recent years (Imaginationland, Pee, Stick of Truth). He's also been in just as must promotional material as Token.
Also, I don't think it's necessary to have these characters out of their alphabetical order, as it may cause confusion to most visitors.
*Nelly
*Kevin Stoley
*Nichole Daniels
*Annie Knitts
*David Rodriguez

I'm not questioning your authority, I'm just offering a much more efficient way to order the list.

-[[User:Jackstanbrah7|Jackstanbrah7]]

I'm not going to change it (yet), but I want you to hear me out, and listen to & respect my reasoning fan to fan; like a respect you as a moderator.

The reason I changed the list was because it is meant to be like that! None of the characters listed above are main or secondary characters! Therefor should be arranged in their proper alphabetical order after the secondary characters!

Jimmy should be before Token because:
*He's had more screen time.
*He's had more speaking roles.
*He's had more featured episodes.
*He has a much more prominent role in the boys' clique.
*He's been in just as much promo art/material as Token, if not more! Hell, even Timmy's had more promotional things made about him.
*He's basically the sixth boy!

The most efficient order would be:
*The boys (duh).
*Butter, then Wendy (obviously).
*Jimmy (reasons listed above).
*Clyde and Token, or vice versa (Like you said, Token has been in more promos. And Clyde has the most speaking roles of any 4th grader, after the boys & Butters).
*Craig, Tweek, Timmy, & Scott (In that order).
*Heidi, Bebe, & Red.
*Everyone else (IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER).

Please, if you're still not satisfied with my reasoning, just talk with me so we can reach a compromise. We're both mature adults.

-[[User:Jackstanbrah7|Jackstanbrah7]]

Based on some recent branding choices by South Park Studios, it appears that the show is planning on making Nelly a recurring character from here on out. Specifically, Nelly is featured alone in a sticker from the official app's sticker set, the official app is considering adding her as a character with a quotes section and she will be a playable character in the upcoming official mobile game. From what it looks like, Nelly is probably going to be the girls' tough guy type, one of the toughest kids in town in general and a significant rival to Butters. Bebe should also be listed before Heidi because Bebe has done more on the show than Heidi has and has been a key supporting character since the show's first season, while Heidi only became a regular part of the show last season. While she had speaking roles well before last season, has been a part of the girls' group in school and has had a name and an identity for quite a while now, she was nowhere near as prominent as either Wendy, Bebe or even Red prior to last season. As a result of all the attention she got last season, her noticeable presence in the show's official mobile app, multiple appearances in the official mobile app's sticker set, being a playable character in the upcoming official mobile game and her appearance on an officially licensed T-shirt along with a number of established characters from the show that is sold nationally in both stores and online, it appears that Heidi may have officially become the show's third major female fourth grader alongside Wendy and Bebe. It also seems like some of the most important kids are the ones who wear hats and since Heidi has a hat now, it is now likely that she will at least be appearing on a basis similar to that of Wendy and Craig. Kevin Stoley should be featured before the alphabetically listed kids because he shows up quite a bit more than most of the other kids, has a highly distinctive fanboy personality and is constantly a subject of criticism by and an often colleague of Cartman. Therefore, that is why I have the character list sorted in the order that it is. One more thing to mention in regards to the organization of the character list is the fact that Wendy is the only one of the kids outside of the main four to predate the existence of the pilot episode while Butters and Token have been around since the pilot was first produced. Due to the fact that he was only introduced in Season 5 and was initially intended to be a one-time character to serve as a rival to Timmy, Jimmy should be listed behind Butters, Wendy and Token at the very least.

[[User:Nwt000|Nwt000]] ([[User talk:Nwt000|talk]]) 12:28, 31 August 2017 (EDT)

Firstly, I'd like to apologize for getting back to you so late.

Secondly, I still feel like Nelly, Kevin and the others I listed should not be added quite yet, as they're in the same category as characters like Bradley, Jason, and DogPoo, and should be left in alphabetical order (for now). Nelly's a personal favorite of mine, but it doesn't feel right putting her, and the others, where they don't belong.

I agree with you on Bebe, Heidi, & Red.

I don't agree with your argument of the "Jimmy & Token" situation. I know Butters & Token were around in since the pilot, but the same can be said for Clyde, DogPoo, Bebe, Red, and Annie. But Butters wasn't properly introduced until season 3, and Token wasn't until season 4!  Jimmy should come before Token. I mean Trey's 3 main (4th Grader) voices are Cartman, Stan, and Jimmy; like Matt's are Kyle, Butters, and Kenny. I've listed my reasons why Jimmy should be higher, so I won't bore you  by repeating myself; but they're are all valid and reasonable arguments.

-[[User:Jackstanbrah7|Jackstanbrah7]]

===Better Organization===
I wanted to discuss with you regarding the character list. I was trying to better organize the students, creating another category for students who go to South Park Elementary. You seem to have changed it back and I want to talk with you about it.

I personally feel if we have kids who are known to be out of town or have left SPE, (South Park Elementary), then we should put them in their own sub-section. It will make it easier to navigate and for new users to understand where to put one off, out of town kids.

Also I moved the Teens/ Young adults to the adults section as none of the characters inside that category go to the school.
-[[User:Sgt. Sarge]]

I’m not making any further changes to the character list and that’s final. Also, please watch your grammar quality or you will be blocked, thank you for your cooperation. [[User:Nwt000|Nwt000]] ([[User talk:Nwt000|talk]]) 17:28, 24 September 2017 (EDT)

I would like to know why. There are characters under the South Park elementary list that clearly don't belong there, surly some tweaking would do that page some good.
-[[User:Sgt. Sarge]]

What I and the rest of the staff here think is correct stays here, that’s all there is to it. Also, your idea would just make the character list more confusing and difficult to read. [[User:Nwt000|Nwt000]] ([[User talk:Nwt000|talk]]) 21:22, 24 September 2017 (EDT)

Very well, but I still want to point out what could be a much better way to find the character people are looking for. Personally I love much of the list as is but it nags me that there are students and faculty from outside the school categorized under SPE. I do hope you will take another look at my past revision in the history and compare it with what's being used now. I did not mean to make anything more confusing, quite the opposite. By having another subsection of children confirmed not from SPE helps people know right away where they need to go to look for a specific person.

Let me know if you do give it a try but whatever, was just trying to help out.
-[[User:Sgt. Sarge]]